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From what I've read it seems that both Manning and Snowden were gung-ho patriots when they signed up. When they signed up.

It seems in this end game the HR departments are better off picking the cynical, venal and power-hungry. At least they don't have the "disillusioned idealist" failure mode. But you may end up with a kakistocracy.



Are there any articles out there detailing this? I've never heard this part of either story.



Well originally mi5 and sis didn't recruit from university they preferred more experienced men - also because the salary was so low having a pension already helped.




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