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The Houthis created a fake audio of a major Yemeni commander telling his troops to retreat which was subsequently amplified on Twitter/X, telegram, etc.

Apparently, this helped the Houthis advance quickly as the opposition forces were in disarray.

https://x.com/BashaReport/status/2097862335494795579



If that's true, it's insane that it worked. It should be obvious to not take orders from twitter. There's a chain of command for a reason and random people on social media are no part of it. Sounds like the opposition forces would have to be so stupid that any number of Looney Tunes style tricks would have worked. Maybe next they can send out a rabbit in a dress to make opposition fall in love with it.


Yep, the Commander In Chief only issues orders on Truth Social.


I just realized how much money one could make by hacking Truth Social and posting some "truths" under Trump's account. It's a relatively new, relatively complex platform; surely there are bugs.


they've already had a very similar idea at truth social themselves, they're now selling premium early access to market moving news

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/12/truth-social...

it's actually amazing to type that out and notice it's not a joke


Oh we see it as a joke outside the US, just not a very funny one.


This belies a fundamental misunderstanding of Yemeni society. Arab political structure is based on tribal loyalty. Leaders of tribes pledge allegiance to other tribes or coalitions of tribes. They're not part of the same command structure because such a thing does not exist. Usually instead of being defeated tribal loyalties change with the political winds and tribe leaders neogtioate with other leaders. Twitter is also ubiquitous in Arabia and the natural place for political announcements.


While that's helpful and insightful, it's not hugely the issue.

The military units are not very well organized, they don't have clear and stringent command, control and communications.

They understood a regional commander to be fleeing, units fell back.

This is kind of stuff is absolutely as old as time, and it's #1 rule in conflict aka deception.

The parallel would be reproducing a General's order to withdraw - meaning the command would have legitimacy among troops and junior officers, believing their own commanders were just out of the loop.

And yes - their command structure will be de facto organized along social lines, but it's more descriptive.


> This is kind of stuff is absolutely as old as time,

I've only very recently become interested in ancient history, so I'm still very ignorant about this.

Are there any particular examples of this tactic you'd suggest studying?


Not the military stuff but Arab tribal society, read "The First Muslim" by Lesley Hazleton, about Arab society around the year 600. It's an absolute eye-opener.

Thanks for the tip about that book!

I'm case it's helpful to anyone, here's one review of it: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2vxts5/comme...

Seems like a tough area of history to be certain about.


It's Art of War.

"18. All warfare is based on deception. "

AoW is one of the most important historical treatises, it's not just 'something that was written in history', maybe the oldest true 'textbooks' of objective knowledge, and also realpolitik. Also there's hints of metaphysics in there, in a way. It absolutely stands up today.

The very first work of the Western Cannon: Trojan Horse.

Information / espionage and deception has made most of history; Hannibal, Caesar, Alexander etc.

A fun exercise would be to look at battles of history from the lens of information warfare and deception, and contemplate the outcome without it.


Canon, not cannon. Then again, since this is about war, maybe it should be cannon. Lol.

While that may be true, most of the forces fighting the Houthis are Saudi hired mercenaries. Many of them are literally children from Sudan.


The US President routinely announces policy decisions on social media…

You’d lose a lot of money always waiting for news through officials channels.

Who knows how slow Yemini military channels are.

You’d bet your life on it?


> The US President routinely announces policy decisions on social media…

Yes, our current President also does stupid things, and our military forces shouldn't be using his incoherent ramblings on Twitter to make snap judgements on the battlefield without checking with their chain of command either.


> ...and our military forces shouldn't be using his incoherent ramblings on Twitter to make snap judgements on the battlefield without checking with their chain of command either.

You mean the chain of command that has been purged of experienced professionals?


We really are in a bad spot aren't we. In so many ways, strategically, reputationally, introspectively. It's hard to imagine coming back from this.


You don't come back, you slide back to normal country status while 2 generations of people pretend you're still an empire until you really can't anymore.

Most European countries know this feeling. :)


> It's hard to imagine coming back from this.

You don't even need to try because it's not happening.


> You’d bet your life on it?

This is why it succeeded: lizard brain decisions overcame training in the armed forces.


Twitter is huge in KSA. Much more significant a share than other countries. Something like 60% to 70% of the population are active users.


Donald duck lies every other minute, especially on Fridays it seems. Fog is a tactic of war and a way to make money I guess.


That sounds like a fake storyline. The much simpler explanation is that the local Saudi merc army sucked. If you followed the whole conflict in the last 20 years this is largely the case - the Saudis aren't really great at warfare, typically depending on foreign mercenaries (also for cleaning etc...). These in turn have very low morale.


Can't read the Twitter link, but that sounds made up.

Where in the battlefield decision making process are they listening to social media recordings to make combat decisions?


It gave demoralized soldiers an excuse to flee rather than fight. Nobody was going to question the reprieve offered by an order to retreat, even fake.


If it was involving a reasonably solid military I would agree.

Sauds, on the other hand . . .



What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world?

Even in the Russia/Ukraine conflict they use Telegram for basic operations. All chat applications are dual-use.


And most chat apps are either e2e encrypted or HTTPS, both of which are hard to break for third world nations.

But leaks of those messages onto twitter are probably the most valuable info source for what the enemy is doing.


Third world? Have we forgotten the Pete Hegseth Signal fiasco?


The ship of state is the only vessel that leaks from the top.


> What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world?

I have no idea, but Im certain that twitter recordings do not put frontline forces in disarray.

> use Telegram for basic operations

an encrypted private communication channel is very different than public social media


You have far, far too much faith in the professionalism of armed forces in the developing world. 99% of it is just random 22 year old guys with guns and dual-use communication tech.


> too much faith in the professionalism

I dont know that its a matter of professionalism. Everyone in the world has known that AI can generate video and audio that is imperceptibly fake, for years. And thats to say nothing of man-made forgeries in the years prior.

I have a hard time seeing people on the front line throwing down arms and running away because of an unsourced twitter clip.


We, as in the terminally online, have known that AI can generate imperceptibly fake footage. There are still plenty of average people who still gets caught off guard.


Yeah, and adverts only work on other people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_effect

Fortunately I'm from Wobegon and I'm above average: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wobegon#The_Lake_Wobegon_...


You gotta touch grass and get outside and talk to normies.

And then recognize that the normies you talk to are VASTLY MORE internet-savvy than the illiterate child soldiers on the front lines in Yemen. You have no concept of the info environment they live in. It is all magic electronic soup.


Last time I checked, group chats in Telegram weren't e2ee.

> > What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world?

> I have no idea, but Im certain that twitter recordings do not put frontline forces in disarray.

And yet as a counterexample: reality.


Holy shit. This is really interesting. AI used to impersonate, social media to amplify, and that led to a significant tactical defeat?

I don't want to live in interesting times anymore.


They also used Claude in a fairly sophisticated way to design their missile guidance system (PDF, search for GTG-87001).

https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/e50be2e51e7695dc4b1366a37a245a...


"AI is critical for National Defense."

"But I don't see it helping us, it's just helping our enemies get closer to parity ."

"Precisely. How else are we going to justify the budget?"


Where did Anthropic get that information to train their model on is a good question to ask as well.


The engineering library of your local college has all the information needed for ballistic guidance systems.


Or they don't have that information in the training data and it wasn't actually nearly as helpful for developing a missile as they claim.


yeah and so does the ardupilot documentation including examples. A basic guidance system, which is like single waypoint navigation, is a solved problem. It's in basically every prosumer drone too.


Yeah, I saw that. I wonder if there are any other AI labs that are naive (good?) enough to admit this type of thing.

Obviously, it's happening with all decent models.


It's not naivete/goodness, this is totally aligned with their playbook of trying to get AI to be heavily regulated.


OK, that is a plausible argument given Dario's public positions. I have to admit that I keep cutting them some slack for standing up against automated kill chains, and domestic surveillance.


Automated kill chains and domestic surveillance are happening regardless of what one corporation wants. These technologies will never be inaccessible to the government or government contractors who already have zero issues navigating red tape.

The point of regulation is to kill competitors and prevent private individuals from having unfettered access.


To be clear, I don't think they're doing it because they want all the money, I think they truly believe that this is existentially threatening, and are trying to regulate their open source competition away because they think that's the way to be safe. That they can be trusted with the power, but if it's out and about, that's unsafe - they like to compare it to nukes, and they want nuclear non-proliferation.


Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

This is the most "I get both sides" issue in my mind these days. I am still not sure where I fall, or if there is even a correct position with which to agree. It really seems like there are no good options.

On the one hand, if all knowledge work ended up in two dude's hands, that is really bad. On the other hand, if every surviving child victim of war (US, RU, IL, CN, whatever) has access to the knowledge to make custom viruses for a few grand, that is also really bad.


Yeah, it's really tough, there's so much potential good, and so much potential bad. My intuition says that decentralized will probably be better, the other way seems to concentrate power while also not really keeping it out of the hands of anyone. It doesn't seem likely that the US firms will be able to convince the Chinese to agree to an international regulatory framework for this stuff. Opinion polls there have the populace being quite optimistic about the benefits of this stuff, and I think the cat's too far out of the bag to really put it back in, anyway.


Makes me want to be a frontier model provider just to get the ring-side seat on what every bad actor in the world is doing.


Elon is tapping the empty seat next to him.


“Don’t believe everything you read on the internet” seems like the golden rule we’ve all forgotten


Yet here we are, believing that the Houthis used fake AI voice to achieve a battlefield victory.


I think GP is saying that the story of fake AI voices is what's fake. HNers are the ones "falling for it". Not the Saudi merc forces


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Where men are men, women are also men, and children are FBI agents.


If this is real, the interesting part is this Adelalhasanii user who amplified it. Seems like a Yemini who's supportive of the Houthis.


This is why you should always sign orders with your public key smh


It’s actually embarrassing the industry haven’t implemented optional signing into everything with a text box,

with the press of a USB key or other device into/onto what you’re using.

This can be used to verify consistent identities for the cost of an AirTag or less - but without mandating it as a government-involved thing, which is most of the holdup.


Oh wow! Dario and Scam were right!

We should stop everybody else from developing AI, except for both of them which are the most appropriate stewards for this technology.


Twitter/X should be held liable.


Liable for Yemeni troops taking orders from social media?

Do they have a chain of command? Are people in charge?


This is the chaos that silicon valley and the current US government has fully gotten behind.


... even though they aren't?




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