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yeah i'm wondering the same way... especially in light of the 20x debacle (where we found that 20x of Max vs 5x only applies to the 5hr limit, not the weekly limit, whereas OpenAI's 20x actually is 20x overall).

Also Opus 5 has been really tough to work with. I can't understand half of what it says, it's just so damn obscure.



Could you share more about 5x/20x? I missed that


20x related to the 5h limit only. Weekly seems to be around 10x, although they deliberately don’t give a number.

OpenAI is 20x on both limits


Is this official or based on people's reports?


> Weekly seems to be around 10x

Actually no. 5x and 20x have same weekly usage across all models. Just ask their chatbot.

https://x.com/beydogan_/status/2095293596198957418


it's clearly wrong, think it's realistically closer to 1.7x


I still use Opus 4.8 for a lot of tasks because I can't stand the way it talks.




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