> the entitled freeloaders

Now remind me again, who trained a coding-assistant without consent on those "freeloaders" code and sold it for profit?

Using a corporation's free offerings isn't freeloading. Microsoft wants people to put their code on GitHub. They want GitHub to be the place where source code is hosted, it is incredibly valuable. Saying "GitHub is sucking and I might leave" is information that Microsoft wants to know if they want to preserve GitHub's dominance.

Of course some people take it too far. Of course there are reasons that the outages are occurring. But Microsoft wants GitHub to be a core, reliable pillar of the software world. Nobody's making them do that, they do it because it's good for them.

Whos fault is the massive load increase, or their inability to navigate it?

Did I iject copilot into every part of github? In fact not only did I not insert it, I have never even used it.

Did I move their infrastructure to Azure?

Did I sell them to MS?

Did I set all the directives and priorities that MS has set on them like telling everyone they must use openai for everything, and then telling them they must stop doing that and user their own ai instead?

The outage is not due to a natural disaster that no one could anticipate and no one had any input on creating the conditions. They keep the free tier because THEY want what THEY get from the free tier. They could easily have a $1 tier and various totally sensible throttle limits on various services and apis that would have avoided all this, but that would not get them the 100% user coverage that they want. So THEY choose to provide free, swiss cheese service.

It's not some unreasobable burden they labor under that anyone else should be understanding and forgiving about.

This is exactly the entitled attitude I'm talking about. Nobody forced you to use Github for free. Don't like it, use something else. Beggars cannot be choosers

I don't have to use a thing, for free or otherwise, to observe it's nature, and nowhere in that observation is there any claim to any entitlement.

It's curious why anyone outside of GH or MS leadership would even care to try to make such a claim.

It seems that paid users are equally impacted as free users.

It sounds a little bit unfair to me.

"Most people use GitHub and features for free"

Do you have a source for that factoid? (I suspect the vast majority of Github resource usage is paid. And we are upset.)

That sounds unusual for a free platform (not a limited trial but an actual free tier). Isn't it usually the case that only some small percentage can be convinced to pay?

They're arguing that most usage of resources would be by companies, who are presumably paying.

I don't think my employer pays for our use of Github. Edit: but, then, perhaps that's why my view is tainted. Point taken!

True but paid users are also impacted.

We're still staying on Github at work, but have had backup self hosted git repos as a break glass option when Github is completely broken and leveraged this several times now.

I mean, a lot of us have paid GitHub a lot of money for CI on private repos. And when GitHub themselves encourages the insane behavior of vibe coders and agents instead of just charging or rate limiting access of bots, it's hard to give them sympathy.

LOL. If it dies, it dies.

People take the weirdest rhetorical hostages.

Agreed - up-time problems have been going on with Github for a while. They need to sort out their problems.

Entitlement? Please. It's not like Github is a charity that operates on kindness and goodwill.

It's a service that is owned and operated by Microsoft Corporation, and we're the product of it.