> Prove it. But you can’t, which is problematic for you.

More honestly: "Convince me. Except I've already made up my mind, so I'll never let you."

And like yeah, that does seem to be the case, so that's a bit rough indeed.

That said, if you feel like being a bit intellectually daring tonight, here you go: https://youtu.be/87DyyMV0kCY

> Nobody should believe anything OpenAI says about anything.

It's a great thing you bring up beliefs: it's the only thing people ever have, both you and me.

Personally, after hearing their account (linked above), I don't find much to disbelieve on it. It's just a series of "oh okay, that's fun, makes sense" moments. It's normal stuff. They're definitely at least a little proud of having popped a few shops, but that's very realistic in its own way.

I guess your best next option is waiting for a lawsuit to reach discovery or something, and then it's a matter of how dedicated you are to your disbelief. This indeed hasn't happened yet though, if it ever will, so nothing for me to provide (nor for you).

Speaking of, note that I don't have any more reason to believe the likes of you than I do OpenAI. Especially because it all just comes across as trite cynicism, mixed with generous amounts of wishful thinking. I also happen to be simply using these things, so that further plays into why I don't find these events particularly miraculous. It's already existing capability for the most part, so why would I? The only difference is disabled guardrails and better temporal coherence, which is exactly what you'd expect from upcoming models still in eval.

> or they’re incompetent by building a sandbox their AI could break out of.

One could definitely make the argument that someone was at least a little asleep at the wheel, but I don't think that makes them particularly incompetent. Just the normal variety you'll find anywhere else.

You are correct you have no reason to believe OAI compared to me. But I’m sure you’re aware that they are the ones making the extraordinary claim here. I’m simply saying it sounds like something that advertising would come up and it’s right on brand for the likes of Altman and ‘how quickly can I make my first billion?’ They did successfully dominate AI-related news for a few days and get free publicity, which I’m sure is nice when you’re bleeding money and losing the benchmarks race and getting dropped by Apple in favour of Gemini.

So the best part for me is I don’t have to prove anything. I’m not the one claiming it happened.

The onus is on them. Clearly HF did get hacked, but there is no unbiased evidence that this thing broke out of a sandbox unbeknownst to OAI, except OAI saying so.