Is it moving the goalposts to ask Waymo to demonstrate a drive across America and not in well mapped cities with only lower speeds? How did we define "self driving"?

No True Scotsman only drives in the city. All True Scotsmen drive across the entire U.S. of A.

Waymo has completed 20 MILLION autonomous rides, 6.5m last quarter alone...

At what point does it get to say it can self-drive? When there's not a single non-self-driven car left on the road?

>At what point does it get to say it can self-drive?

My criteria: When you can drop this car at a random spot on earth (where cars can actually go of course) and tell it to go to place B. So this can be anywhere from a big city to a small dirt road in the forest.

>drive across the entire U.S. of A.

I'm still working on collecting the drive to all states badge. I've only accomplished half. I calculated my total driving since getting a license recently and its approx. ~360k miles or around 17k miles a year.

If Waymo can eventually handle rural life in the US I'd be seriously impressed.

It's not going to for a long time because the cost/benefit isn't there...

Even if Waymo's healthy growth rate continues, it won't make up 5% of the entire US rideshare market until 2030.

That's still several years away from ever even thinking about rural areas.