Please don't post attacks on people's character like this on HN. It's fine to share information about people that are relevant to the discussion, but please keep it to dispassionate sharing of material facts rather than venomous slurs like this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

shady and slimy? what are you talking about?

I’ve heard enough about their past behaviour from separate independent sources to know I’d never use Ladybird

care to provide any info instead of ominously refusing to do so?