One of the horrific elements of 9/11 was that force of compression as the building collapsed basically destroyed bodies beyond even being small parts.
As a result, for years following 9/11 remains ( sometimes very small ) were found and immediately catalogued and DNA tested in the hopes some of the victims would finally have something that could be buried.
It's truly horrific to be unable to tell a family for certain that their loved one is definitely gone. And there are folks from that event who are still entirely missing, no remains found. Their families had to bury empty caskets with a lack of closure.
Look up "where did the towers go?" on Youtube, a lecture by materials scientist Judy Wood. She argues I think conclusively that the towers were turned into dust by directed energy weapons.
(I know this will get downvoted to hell, but I suggest you find out for yourself.)
The people horrified at news stories like this are not the same people working in defense tech.
At least, I’ve never met someone who works in war tech who really cares. They either don’t think about it or they believe the propaganda and think they’re making the world safer. Both are bad but neither seems hypocritical to me.
> The world would definitely be a safer place if everyone was a pacifist.
Misery, hunger and human exploitation would still exists, as recent history shows.
War is a tool in resolving some issues, and you better have the best tools there is.
I bet al Jazeera won't mention that Hamas used thermite grenades to evaporate people hiding in shelters on their invasion on October 7th. Propaganda sure is a scary tool of war...
I always find it interesting that these conversations get flooded with new accounts making false equivalencies. Thermite grenades (~500g of explosive material) are not going to evaporate people like a 2000kg thermobaric weapon would. You might even say that Israel has more of an expectation of precision and reduction of civilian causalities given they have precise munitions.
It's equivalent in the results not the technical specs. In Israel they spent weeks sifting through the charred remains of the house to find at least a tooth of a child. People were gone on both sides. It's just for Palestinians most likely they are not going to get answers because it's impossible to sift trough millions of tons of earth and garbage. Germans have 2 million soldiers still MIA after 70 years of recovery efforts!
That would be a reasonable question if the resulting war had been started de novo by Israel instead of it being a defensive war intended to prevent another October 7.
This story is utterly chilling, but its source is incredibly dubious.
Al Jazeera operates entirely at the pleasure of the Al Thani royal family—from whom it receives 90% of its revenue.
Qatar, likewise, provides Hamas with essential financial lifelines—billions in aid over the years, including regular cash transfers for salaries, fuel, and reconstruction in Gaza. Hamas's political leadership lives comfortably in Doha, which gives the Al Thani family a direct channel to influence decisions there. Without Qatar's support, Hamas would struggle to function as effectively, making Doha the group's most critical backer.
So, again, Al Jazeera is effectively a mouthpiece for Hamas or, rather, both are limbs of Qatar's ruling Al Thani family.
Many Arab regimes face publics where the Palestinian cause remains a sacred, unifying obsession, transcending borders and sects. Leaders amplify Gaza outrage via state media to rally citizens around the flag, distracting from internal woes like economic stagnation, youth unemployment, or repression.
The status quo—intermittent flares—lets everyone virtue-signal, fund proxies cheaply, and avoid accountability for real peace (which demands painful compromises like PA reform or Israeli concessions).
Meanwhile, captured Hamas documents reveal systematic coordination with Al Jazeera, including editorial guidelines, secure phone lines for real-time instructions, and directives to shape coverage. It's less a news outlet than a geopolitical lever, stoking emotions to maintain regional clout.
So while the core reality of airstrikes holds, it's distorted by propaganda into disproportionate horror.
I feel like there’s some propaganda serving both sides. A bomb which prevents Muslim funeral rites can be psychological warfare from Israel and also a story over-emphasized from those invested in Hamas to take the focus away from something else.
Is it perhaps also possible that a bunker buster bomb that can be used to destroy tunnels from above ground ... was used to bust bunkers and destroy tunnels?
If you can think of such tiny details. Then, surely, you can also answer the larger idea, no? What are these weapons, more in general? What are they used for normally, what are they designed to do?
And does the normal explanation perhaps make a lot more sense than pointing at the tiny details that fits a conspiracy theory?
Not at all. My argument is not that tit for tat is good, but that if we are to be serious about condemning violence, we must be willing to criticize all those who are violent, even if we may align with them politically in some fashion.
Instead there is a distinct slant on this conflict in both reporting & commenting.
When one side is violent, we are told that this is honorable resistance and that we must expand our view of the conflict further back in history, (but not too far back), to understand their actions as a response to the other side's actions (aka tit for tat, but it's good when we do it)
When the other is violent, we are told to focus solely on recent history, and to understand that there is simply no reason whatsoever for the violence except pure bloodlust.
> ... Accordingly, the mission of HonestReporting is to ensure truth, integrity and fairness, and to combat ideological prejudice in journalism and the media, as it impacts Israel.
The name seems to be a red herring, their mission statement is to protect Israel.
> According to a 2025 report by fact-checking site Misbar, many members of HonestReporting's staff have links to the Israeli government and military, and several previously worked in pro-Israel advocacy or served in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).[4]
> In December 2024, Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar held a meeting with prominent figures from hasbara organizations, among them HonestReporting, announcing $150 million in funding to support their global outreach efforts.[21][4][22]
Clues that it is a pro-Israel mouthpiece. So Al-Jazeera vs HonestReporting cancels out?
Also from Wikipedia:
> In November 2023, HonestReporting published an article questioning whether Palestinian photojournalists had tipped off the Associated Press, Reuters, The New York Times and CNN prior to the October 7 attacks. The report led two Israeli politicians to threaten that these journalists be killed,[34] while the Israeli Prime Minister's office said the journalists were "accomplices in crimes against humanity".[35]
> On November 10, 2023, HonestReporting's director said he accepted that the media groups had no advance knowledge of the October 7 Hamas attacks on Israel.[1]
>> ... Accordingly, the mission of HonestReporting is to ensure truth, integrity and fairness, and to combat ideological prejudice in journalism and the media, as it impacts Israel.
> The name seems to be a red herring, their mission statement is to protect Israel.
Even according to your quote, your rephrasing is inaccurate.
How is it inaccurate? Do you believe they would openly state "our mission is to protect Israel"? They have to use weasel words but in effect is the same: they will combat "ideological prejudice" which requires them to define "ideological prejudice" for their means and since it's combined with "as it impacts Israel" it's basically just weaseling the statement "we will protect Israel".
Thermobaric bombs are real and even normal bombs can do this. (There’s a WW2 song which ends “and all they could find were spots/hundreds and hundreds of spots.“) Not clear that this is a war crime; war is horrible and bombs are part of it; the question is how indiscriminately they were dropped.
"blood libel" why do you have to use this term all the time? There is plenty of other words that describe what you want to say: fake news, disinformation, propaganda. Why do the likes of you insist on using "blood libel"?
In the current context, OP's use of "insane blood libel" is a very efficient way to communicate his interpretation of the article. And probably his cultural/political background and worldview. And his emotions on the subject.
The terms you've suggested would, at best, be far less efficient for that purpose.
Because Al Jazeera is a project of the Al Thani royal family whose chief aim is to exacerbate the external conflict to maintain Qatar's internal political stability.
Yes, you always need more sources, that's why I don't dismiss it as propaganda. It would not be the first time that a news org lies, and it would not be the first time that the IDF lies.
You are trying to make it all about Jews, but they aren't any more special than any other people/religion on the planet. So let's use terms that could be applied to anyone.
Anyway, this is beside the point, reporting on Israel's atrocities and its genocide in Gaza has been accurate for the most part, unlike the lies coming out of Israeli government or IDF.
Yes you're right, always remember who writes the article and what their interests are.
AJ seems to be pro-Russia, anti-Israel, anti-USA, pro-Iran islamic "republic".
The islamic republic is all about deception, cutting internet to the whole country and reopening it 3 weeks later heavily filtered.
The Russian invasion contains disproportionately more Sunni Muslims than the population, so there’s some sincerity in Al Jazeera covering it from that side.
And I’ve seen AJ covering Shia, especially outside Iran, without mentioning the politics of Iran.
One thing to keep in mind is that Sunni outside of KSA are not very supportive of the Saudi royal family. Whereas Shia outside of Iran have a coreligionist unity. That’s how I see AJs coverage.
If it's not outright propaganda AJ is heavily biased or misinformed, or at least it's my right to be highly sceptical of this source. I don't know if that's why the post was flagged or if it's just because it's not the right type of content for HN.
Wheter Sunni or Shia it seems countries close to Iran prefer the status quo to other options.
As a result, for years following 9/11 remains ( sometimes very small ) were found and immediately catalogued and DNA tested in the hopes some of the victims would finally have something that could be buried.
It's truly horrific to be unable to tell a family for certain that their loved one is definitely gone. And there are folks from that event who are still entirely missing, no remains found. Their families had to bury empty caskets with a lack of closure.
It's a pretty horrid thing.