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You can buy new Pixel 7 quite cheap and install grapheneOS there.

I have 300 bits of information in rude direct form with some obscene language as well. I ask LLM to wrap it into a nice polite message. Resulted 1000 bits are sent in the email.

I bet no one would like to get direct rude "source" instead.


> I bet no one would like to get direct rude "source" instead.

You bet wrongly. Rudeness carries information.

“Fucking hell, how many times have I asked you to XYZ” is different from “G’day gov’nor, terribly sorry to bother you. May I remind you to XYZ? Would you mind doing so at your earliest convenience? My deepest regards, toodeloo”.

The former conveys urgency and annoyance while the former conveys that you can keep ignoring it (and straining the relationship).


Brit here.

The latter (with its twisted mix of Australian, Cockney and Kings English) carries a calm sarcastic tone which indicates ones displeasure far more than the former, more vulgar statement, could ever hope to achieve.

One is however, reminded that Americans simply don't get our sarcasm, frequently leading to some amusing cultural clashes.


> with its twisted mix of Australian, Cockney and Kings English

This is a great way of summarizing a lot of the TV we’re getting in the US that have British characters, and it’s annoying once you notice it.

See how the accent changes in Lie to Me between season 1 and season 3:

S1: https://youtu.be/bWyhsqh_e9s

S3: https://youtu.be/oPqOET_xCKw


gosh...this twisted indirect way of communication makes me nuts. Just be open and say what you mean and stop being offended so easily...

If you equate sarcasm with ease of offence, you are very much mistaken.

Regardless, in Blighty, such sarcasm is by no means twisted and indirect. It is as plain as the nose on ones face. As I said earlier, many Americans simply don't get such sarcasm, leading to comic clashes of culture.


Then you should push everyone to talk like a caveman. It really saves time and tokens.

But there is a reason no one is talking that way...


The latter one conveys urgency in the sense it burns more tokens on the governor's side.

The former also conveys that you are rude, which is not what you usually want.

I would much rather get the rude original message.

you just lost a bet

>> it's not Youtube influencer level cool and industry relies increasingly on older generations

Usually it means the pay is crap, the schedule is bad and nobody is willing to invest into training. Why should young people select such career?


Strongly disagree on that last part. Unlike software engineering, where training is nearly non-existent and we expect everyone to show to their first job interview knowing about the big-O complexity of sorting algorithms, traditional manufacturing has a robust tradition of apprenticeship and training on the job.

It also has much better and more predictable hours than, say, the ever-popular gaming industry.

You're right that low pay is an issue, but pay is crap in part because of outsourcing. Any machine shop in the US is competing with China to an extent that, oddly, we don't actually see in the software space. The West is mostly using Western-made software, and outside of that, only India is invited to the club (and even that only as a subcontractor).

But a lot of it is also just culture / parenting. Every parent wants their kid to become a software engineer, a lawyer, or a doctor. There's basically zero pride in being a machinist.


>But a lot of it is also just culture / parenting. Every parent wants their kid to become a software engineer, a lawyer, or a doctor. There's basically zero pride in being a machinist.

I disagree.

A lot of people, nerds (and me) included, would see no problem in taking an operational role inside manufacturing if it paid a livable wage and offered a career.

But somehow people still act shocked when nobody wants to work a job that pays retail wages.


>> traditional manufacturing has a robust tradition of apprenticeship and training on the job.

We also have such tradition. Senior software engineers are teaching juniors.

Would tradition manufacturing employ an apprentice without knowledge about the tools and materials? I doubt that. Everyone now wants to get a senior employee with 20y of experience and pay junior rates.


There'd be pride if it paid similarly to a doctor.

Probably not. Plumbing pays pretty well and it's almost never a parent's dream. It's probably below being an office assistant. We just attached a stigma to everything blue collar (= "uneducated").

> Plumbing pays pretty well

Plumbing does not pay well for the average plumber. Not doctor-well at least, which is what you are responding to.

Can some plumbers make good money? Absolutely. But you need to do dirty, body-breaking work for years.

There’s nothing wrong with being a plumber and it’s a profession we surely need young people to go into. But the pay and trade offs vs a white color job will lean heavily in direction of the latter.


Being a plumber pays acceptably, not well. Being a plumbing business owner can pay well, but would have less catchet than a doctor making the same amount, sure, but it's also far less common.

There is a lot more demand for software engineers and doctors. (I'm not sure about lawyers - it used to be good, but last I heard it wasn't as good) The world doesn't need many machinists anymore since CNC can do such a good job. The world needs people to design the parts the CNC makes though - often in the past you would take that to a machinist to design on the machine, now you need to know CAD.

    > Every parent wants their kid to become a software engineer, a lawyer, or a doctor.
Uh, what? Both sides of my family is nine aunties/uncles, and my parents. None of them pressured their children to select a specific career or even major in university. I think my experience is fairly common.

    > There's basically zero pride in being a machinist.
I cringe when I see the term "pride" used this way. Would you say that to a career machinist? I wouldn't. When I was growing up, I can still remember my elementary school bus driver named Barbara. She really took pride in driving our bus everyday, but was probably paid peanuts.

If you don't attend university, being a machinist is skilled labour that pays well. Plus, you can continuously self-educate to climb into more and more skilled roles that pay more. The salary is solidly middle class, and the work is probably in areas with a low cost of living.


New Corola is advertised at $25k. Fair price considering how many features you get vs 1974 car.

Base Corolla is starting at JPY2,380,400, or USD15,166.61 in Japan, btw. So it is a $15k car.

Isn't it just USD/EUR underselling itself? Basically it's full $10k cheaper if you agree to not take it out of Japan. Take home is $10k extra. No?


Historically, base model for the US market had more features than base European trim. I guess the same applies for Japan. Also taxes are different, obviously.

What a hot dump for 25k. The current corolla in all its glory and odd mix of old and new technologies should be a 15k otd car, but instead its seen as a value at 25k and will provide years of boring value for a barely attentive driver.

And 1974 Corolla for $2500 was the same, I guess.

GR Corolla is much better and faster than any supercars of 1970s. Compare price of it with original Countach!


GR corolla actually pretty cool I was wrong as a hot hatch it's super quick

The effects of efficiency gains and inflation should eat most of the cost of those new features, I presume. I mean, computerization makes a lot of things easier and cheaper, and computers are very cheap now.

Imagine if in the best scenario Japan is going to stop borrowing. Reducing the population will drive debt ratio up. Good luck to the next generation, say thank you to your grandparents who borrowed from you.

Has any country really tried?

To have multiple kids you need bigger house, more stuff and more time.

To have 2+ kids you either neglect them or should become stay at home parent. It's only for rich, for families who can comfortably live on one salary.

The other thing is time: people who want many kids want to spend time with them, not at work. But without work they cannot afford kids. Catch-22.


>It's only for rich, for families who can comfortably live on one salary.

or collectivist societies. We completely forgotten the old adage: "it takes a village to raise a kid". 3rd world countries still increase in population because everyone chips in to care for everyone's kids, not simply staying within their own house raising their own kid by themselves.

>The other thing is time: people who want many kids want to spend time with them, not at work. But without work they cannot afford kids. Catch-22.

This is definitely another piece of the puzzle, one within the levers of government. Shorter work weeks for the same or more pay would alleviate this issue. But that's something the elite will fight tooth and nail to prevent.


In 3rd world countries having children is also a retirement plan because government does not guarantee much for elderly. Not sure if developed countries want to go there though.

How about supersonic flight?

I don't think that's a useful comparison. Supersonic military planes have been common for decades. We don't have supersonic passenger planes because the FAA has banned supersonic flight over land since 1973, though the agency is planning on replacing it with a noise standard. Also the original supersonic passenger aircraft were government-sponsored tech demos, not financially sustainable products. With updated laws & modern technology (cameras instead of tilting noses, more efficient engines without afterburners, lighter materials), we could have viable supersonic passenger flight.

Pretty much anyone can volunteer and became an UAV drone operator in Ukraine. Get an experience you'll use in the WW3!


Most developers are not good at testing. That's why the role of test engineer exists.

I've seen in multiple projects things like assertTrue(true).

I'm sure the agent is better in testing than average enterprise developer.


big tech is moving / has moved away from the role.


Unfortunately for the users, testing has been pushed to them. You can deploy whatever slop you want - nobody cares. More lines of code!


It was perfect when the only way to connect to the internet was a computer.

Smartphones ruined it.


notifications specifically played, and still play, a most prominent role.


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