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> Another question I've had for a while - is there any way to combine lab-grown meat, cockroach milk, and vertical farming?

I think it makes more sense to use 'plankton' as a food source, for making nutritious green wafers. They can be called 'Soylent Green'.

This could also help to solve the over-population problem.


I'd rather be a cannibal than eat lab grown meat.


> What do you think, say, a milk or orange juice factory looks like?

Something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZuWvwrEl_I


> What's so weird about sterile rooms and stainless steel tanks? Do you think breweries (for example) are so much different?

I can brew my own beer in my own home.

Can I make lab-grown meat in my own home?


You're moving the goal posts. The initial claim was that stainless steel tanks per se were the issue.


They feel unnatural and unconventional and is something a large part of the population will be unable to relate to. Food is a very cultural thing.

We've also been educated to buy and prepare our own meals from the most natural/unprocessed ingredients as possible and avoid heavily industrialized/preprocess ingredients for health reasons.

Lab grown meat is the opposite of both of that.

I am just playing Devil's advocate here. I understand the appeal and potential environmental benefits as well.


I wouldn’t be so sure that most of the population could relate to the horrors of factory farms and slaughter houses—where basically all meat they’re buying comes from no matter how many alleged free roam grass fed consumers claim to exist on social media.

That’s why there are laws to keep them from seeing it. Which might be why so many HNers think animals grow up in sunshine and rainbows and it’s the sterile lab that's icky.


While this technology is becoming mainstream, those of us that are okay with it should understand there is something fundamentally "icky" for some people. Which is difficult to debate rationally.

This is partly the fault of Sci-fi, bio-engineering is rarely shown as a positive in TV and Film.

This will be mostly solved with time, eventually it may become economically unviable to buy "field meat" (not sure what the term will be), and it will become a lot more accepted when they see the people around them enjoying it without severe consequences.


I'd be extremely curious to see a lot of these people be presented with the bioreactor and the live cow, and pick which one they're going to eat.

"Icky" is ignorance.


With the right equipment, if not now, soon you will be able to.


I did the same thing, but not for myself, it was to send other people away that I didn't like


Is that a lot?


It's almot 1000 a year. There's probably <10k homeless and 2-3k addicts on the street. Total addict population is significantly larger, but it still seems like a significant fraction of the total. I'm not sure I buy the article's claim that most of this is happening on the street since the growth of SROs (and closing of the overdose center) seem to provide privacy that allows more overdoses, but the boom in fentanyl (now tranq) seems to keep coming.

I'm not sure there are simple solutions to this that don't have side effects. Mostly, the goal seems to be to move it out of sight, and to be fair many of the people came to SF on bus tickets provided by other localities with the same goal. At the same time there's a level of permission in some areas that doesn't seem to change (kind of like the smash and grabs in all the tourist areas) what ever they say about law and order.

It's not like police have been motivated to do much about it for at least the last 30 years.


It’s a bit above the National average according to:

https://drugabusestatistics.org/drug-overdose-deaths/

Assuming 900000 people in San Francisco, the national average would say about 190/yr. One every 10hrs would mean 876/yr, or 4.6x the national average.


What if he is watching videos about quantum physics, and he might have been the next Einstein, if his parents didn't restrict his access to the information superhighway?


1 in 5000 views. You can bet 20% are TidePod challenges and blowing up swimming pools with dry ice.


I think part of it comes down to knowing your children well enough to know if this is likely.

In truth as someone with autism and ADHD I found myself down some pretty nasty rabbit holes if I wasn't at least given some guidance.


YT has a watch history so this “what if” can be easily tested. In case it’s true you can then supplement the internet superhighway with some relevant books on the subject.


Kids know how to clear the watch history. YouTube has been a real struggle for me.

My kids cleared the watch history then I would notice the history was empty so I’d talk to them about it.

Then the started clearing and then leaving playlists of “educational” stuff running over night to poison the history.

Kids are smart.

I haven’t found a real solution yet other than banning YouTube on everything but the tv in the family room.

It’s funny because classes assign YouTube videos and the kids have to sit there and watch ads before their assignment.


What about climate change? Don't you care about saving the planet?

If you can use your GPU at full power, why do I have to drink out of a paper straw?


Is this serious? Paper straws were partly about moral panic about ocean plastic getting in to animals, and don't seem directly related to climate change.


I live near a McDonalds and I'm fucking glad I don't see plastic straws in the bushes next to the sidewalk any more.


I no longer use paper straws. Instead, I carry around a reusable metal straw that I wash after every use with copious amounts of water.


I don’t drive a car, have kids, or travel much. Those things matter more than the power state of my GPU by orders of magnitude.

A single commute to an office by car likely uses more energy than a lifetime of PC gaming.


> You claim someone actually loved Objective C

The problem with Objective C is that it requires skill. The average developer really is better off using a more remedial language like Swift.


> and at least once a day each citizen should give mandatory report what they were thinking.

So just like SCRUM?


Using standups to determine who’s an upstanding citizen…


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