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> so he will likely win again this year.

What do you mean by this?


I mean the Trump party will win in a landslide. Same reasons as last time. The opposition hasn't done anything to inspire more votes.

Wish the admin never added the SSL redirect, its literally the namesake lol

I just want basically captive.apple.com with a shorter domain and the webserver not even listening on port 443 at all.

Surprised someone hasn't made this yet, it only requires one spare public IP.


I don't think this admin even knows what scraping is. Unless it's "scraping the bottom of the barrel", something they're very familiar with.

I think that would get into murky water really quickly with the rights holders (/content creators) not exactly being thrilled the Wayback Machine is essentially monetizing their IP behind their back.

It wouldn't be behind their back, like I said, "Maybe let website owners decide which scrapers are allowed to use their content, or allow them to get paid for use of it."

You wouldn't need archive.org for that - you could negotiate with the actual website. I think they'd demand quite a lot of money.

Interesting, in all the years I have never noticed that IP has 2 meanings (well probably more...) Yeah, I am an engineer and usually try to avoid the legal BS. Although I hate that AI has made stealing legal if you are big enough.

If the money was guaranteed to only be used to pay the costs, there probably wouldn't be any problems

No. What happened to their remote library scheme? They did not make if for profit, but still...

Exactly this

archive.org is the more straight-laced archive that doesn't circumvent sites that try to block it, and removes content they deem 'problematic' even if not illegal or requested by the site owner.

Meanwhile archive.today/ph/is/etc is the guerrilla alternative run by a die-hard datahoarder that seeks to archive the information itself, bypassing whatever blockers/login pages/whathaveyou to achieve the result.

It's nice to have both options. When I archive a site, I usually use both for added resiliency.


The minuscule traffic generated by the wayback machine, which serves to preserve the content for years to come, is completely incomparable to the scrapers that hammer every single href linked on a website.

Ironically, your framing of the situation is infinitely more disingenuous to push a personal agenda versus anything the archive.today guy did.

A lawyers wet dream is when a security company.... Finds an issue, does not abuse it, and reports it to the affected party for it to be patched?

I feel like people like you are more of a lawyers wet dream, in that they'll happily litigate a frivolous case for you while billing you hourly.


Feelings don't really matter in the legal world. Statements and actions do.


They did abuse if you read the article. They crossed a few lines.

if i find someones key on the ground and take the key and walk into their house and poke around, and make sure to leave a letter, this is a good thing?

So the one orchestrating them would have an even stronger claim to having 'created' something, given its simply a tool?

I haven't seen people say it's indistinguishable quality, but that it doesn't matter. Quite similar to mass-produced foods in the supermarket, actually. We all know they're not as good as a small batch made by hand by someone, but they still get the job done.

Uh, no? It obviously matters.

The market for small batch locally made produce is huge. Entire grocery stores dedicated to local organic offerings is the standard in every upper middle class neighborhood on the entire west coast. The reason is obvious: a salad made with crappy tomatoes is a crappy salad.

We aren’t at this point in software yet because most consumers of software have no taste


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